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scheibeler's testimonials - some math help please
#11
The average BV/PV ratio for all Amway products as of September 1, 1991 was 1.94.
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#12
Thanks! While I've got your attention SP75, do you know when Eric Scheibeler qualifed Founders Emerald?
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#13
ibofightback Wrote:Thanks! While I've got your attention SP75, do you know when Eric Scheibeler qualifed Founders Emerald?

Wait a minute... Eric & Patricia Scheibeler were recognized as new Founders Emeralds in March 1998 issue of Amagram - simultaneously with the introduction of the pin (the Founders Emerald pin was introduced in 1997).
A November 1994 issue of Amagram (Emerald recognition) says: The Scheibelers qualified as Directs and Rubys in 1991, Pearls in 1992, and Emeralds in 1994.
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#14
SP75 Wrote:
ibofightback Wrote:Thanks! While I've got your attention SP75, do you know when Eric Scheibeler qualifed Founders Emerald?

Wait a minute... Eric & Patricia Scheibeler were recognized as new Founders Emeralds in March 1998 issue of Amagram - simultaneously with the introduction of the pin (the Founders Emerald pin was introduced in 1997).
A November 1994 issue of Amagram (Emerald recognition) says: The Scheibelers qualified as Directs and Rubys in 1991, Pearls in 1992, and Emeralds in 1994.


Thanks. Thought they might be in that mag, which I knew you had. What was the qualification? I assume they needed to be in-market legs?
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#15
According to September 1997 issue of Amagram, page 5, a Founders Emerald Direct Distributor qualification required 3 qualified North American legs for 12 months in a fiscal year.
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#16
When did the requirement for Direct Distributor go from 3 months to 6 months (with at least 3 of the those6 months being consecutive) in a fiscal year in North America?
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#17
Here is a brief history of Amway Direct Distributors' pins:

In the 1966 "Your career with Amway" manual, several different "Direct" levels were described:

Silver Direct Distributor: Achieved by developing $7500 Personal Group PV in one month, or by developing $1000 Personal Group PV and sponsoring a group with at least $7500 total PV in that month.

Gold Direct Distributor: Achieved by Silver Direct Distributors who have maintained a Personal Group PV of at least $5000 per month for six consecutive months.

Silver Ruby Direct Distributor: Achieved by Silver Direct Distributors who have developed at least three groups all of which are in the 25% refund bracket in one month.

Gold Ruby Direct Distributor: Achieved by Gold Direct Distributors who have developed at least three groups all of which are in the 25% refund bracket in one month. Silver Ruby DDs can earn the Gold Ruby pin by qualifying as Gold Ruby DDs at any time after receiving the Silver Ruby pin. Part of the gold qualifying months may include and precede achievement of the Silver Ruby Award.

Silver Emerald Direct Distributor: Achieved by Silver Ruby Direct Distibutors who sponsor at least three 25% groups, each of which was in the 25% refund bracket at least 6 months out of the 12 of a given fiscal year (Sept. 1 through Aug. 31). This award qualifies the distributor to receive the Sales Training Bonus.

Gold Emerald Direct Distributor: Achieved by Gold Ruby Direct Distibutors who sponsor at least three 25% groups, each of which was in the 25% refund bracket at least 6 months out of the 12 of a given fiscal year. This award also qualifies the distributor to receive the Sales Training Bonus. Silver Emerald Direct Distributors may earn the Gold Emerald Pin by qualifying as Gold Direct Distributors at any time after receiving the Silver Emerald pin.

Diamond Direct Distributor: Achieved by sponsoring six or more groups, each of which was in the 25% bracket at least 6 months out of the 12 of a given fiscal year. This pin is always a gold pin, and distributors earning this award are also qualified to receive the Sales Training Bonus.

Double Diamond Direct Distributor: Achieved by sponsoring twelve or more 25% groups in any one month. This pin is always a gold pin.

Crown Direct Distributor: Achieved by sponsoring twenty or more 25% groups in any one month. This pin is always a gold pin. It is the highest Amway achievement award.

Shorts for the pins in the Amagram recognitions were as follows:
Silver Direct Distributor = Direct Distributor
Gold Direct Distributor = Gold

The Silver Ruby, Gold Ruby, Silver Emerald and Gold Emerald were replaced during 1969. Also, the qualification criteria for DDs were changed in 1971 and in 1972, requiring a side volume of $1,500 and $2,500, respectively, in order to participate in 3% (at that time) bonus:

From Amagram Vol. 12, No.5 (1971):

Effective September 1, 1971, to qualify as a new Direct Distributor, a distributor must
A. Generate $7500 personal group PV in one calendar month, followed by two consecutive months of at least $6000 PV each, with a minimum of $800 gross profit during each of the three months, as shown on the SA-434 form filed for each month: or
B. Sponsor one 25% group for each of the three consecutive months, plus having at least $1500 personal group PV for each of the three months, with at least $800 gross profit for each of the three months, as shown on the SA-434 form filed for each month: or
C. Sponsor at least two 25% groups for each of the three consecutive months, with at least $800 gross profit for each of the three months, as shown by the SA-434 form filed for each month.

Effective September 1, 1972, to qualify as a new Direct Distributor, a distributor must
A. Generate $7500 personal group PV for each of the three consecutive months, with a minimum $800 gross profit for each of the three months, as shown by the SA-434 form filed for each month: or
B. Sponsor one 25% group for each of the three consecutive months, plus having at least $2500 personal group PV for each of the three months, with at least $800 gross profit for each of the three months, as shown by the SA-434 form filed for each month: or
C. Sponsor at least two 25% groups for each of the three consecutive months, with at least $800 gross profit for each of the three months, as shown by the SA-434 form filed for each month.

Effective September 1, 1971, to requalify for Direct Distributor status, a Direct Distributor must:
A. Generate at least $6000 Personal group PV for each of the three consecutive months, with a minimum of $800 gross profit for each of those three months, as shown by the SA-434 form filed for each month: or
B. Sponsor one 25% group for each of the three consecutive months with at least $1500 personal group PV for each of the three months with at least $800 gross profit for each of the three months, as shown on the SA-434 form filed for each month: or
C. Sponsor two or more 25% groups, each of which qualifies as a Direct Distributor three consecutive months during a fiscal year, and need not submit a SA-434 form showing profitability.

Effective September 1, 1972, to requalify for Direct Distributor status, a Direct Distributor must:
A. Generate at least $7500 Personal group PV for each of the three consecutive months, with a minimum of $800 gross profit for each of those three months, as shown by the SA-434 form filed for each month: or
B. Sponsor one 25% group for each of the three consecutive months with at least $2500 personal group PV for each of the three months with at least $800 gross profit for each of the three months, as shown on the SA-434 form filed for each month: or
C. Sponsor two or more 25% groups, each of which qualifies as a Direct Distributor three consecutive months during a fiscal year, and need not submit a SA-434 form showing profitability.

From a 1975 Amagram:

Pearl Direct Distributor sponsors three 25% groups in a single month (the pin was introduced in fiscal 1971).
Ruby Direct Distributor has attained at least $15,000 personal group PV in one month.
Emerald Direct Distributor has personally sponsored at least three 25% groups, each of which qualifies at the 25% level at least 6 months out of twelve in a given fiscal year.

November 1975 Amagram: New qualification criteria for new DDs and Voting Members were introduced.

Will continue later...
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#18
Regarding end-of-the-month: since we were on Standard Fullfillment, I ALWAYS called our personal group people who were close to a "next bonus level" - they would have been upset to know they missed out by less than 50 PV, for example. And yes, as that started trickling PV upwards, it could make quite a difference for those near the top.

In the months that we needed to qualify consecutively, we just held a sale or two. Our people were heavy into retailing, and would stock up on certain items if they offered a better profit margin. I see nothing wrong with doing this as long as there is no pressure to participate? Our downline LOVED it :grin:
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#19
We actually held end of the month get togethers for our local groups. We would all meet at one person's house and make sure we had a few computers online. This was a great way to meet new people, socialize with friends, hold a bit of a motivational meeting, and watch the PV. With a lot of the group together it was easier to help those who were close to bracketing know that they only needed a few more PV. Similiar to what Deb said, this was only if they were close and involved no pressure.

It was amazing how a little PV bump at the bottom could turn into large PV jumps farther upline.

Plus, this was a great night to find some one on one time with a big pin who might come visit if our team was really growing fast or needed some help.
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#20
Deb,

Do you recall when a Direct Distributor needed to have six months (rather than 3 months) of qualification in a fiscal year?

Do you remember when that change occurred?

Or, I guess a better way of phrasing it: Do you know when the term "Direct Distributor" started to mean (and only mean) that that group had 7,500 PV or more each month, for at least six months in a fiscal year?

Thanks.
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