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Is the Bible Chauvinistic?
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Over on this thread...
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Multimillionaire Wrote:Since you mention "Christianity", your comment above reminds me of the males who wrote the bible and consequently framed modern day "Christianity". Imo they selfishly did so without asking the input of the ladies, and one wonders why much of it comes across so-o chauvinistic. :eek:

You are right, we've gotten terribly :offtopic: so let's wrap this up.


I personally don't think the the Bible comes across chauvinistic. I think reading it with a historical understanding of when it was written, as well as in context of the entire 66 books, is helpful.
A few examples:
*Deborah, was a judge and a prophetess (one of five recorded in the Bible). And without her leadership, Barak would've been toast.
*Esther was a woman of strength and courage. Willing to die for the Jewish people.
*Ruth is an example of amazing commitment to her mother-in-law. And that certainly paid off for her and her offspring.
*Jesus was very edifying of women. Kind and loving and protective--the woman at the well, the woman about to be stoned, Mary who lavishly poured the perfume on him.
*Paul was also edifying of women, like when he credited Timothy's strong faith to his grandmother and mother pouring in to him.
And certainly when he explains what love is (the famous wedding passage of 1 Cor 13) and then makes it real clear to husbands in Ephesians 5 that they are to love their wives. Pretty straightforward.

It's only when humans take the Bible out of context, and twist it and pervert it, and use it as a weapon to control (both men and women) that it can come across chauvinistic--among other things.
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I agree! You just have to take the "time of writing" into consideration. Let's face it - even if the Bible had been written in the early 1900's...women STILL would have been secondary players for the most part.

I also believe that because some of the Big Pins with AMOs had been affiliated with more "fundamental" religions (who translated the Bible very literally) - that's why we saw AMO teachings in the past where the wife was supposed to be in the background.
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Of course the Bible is Chauvinistic..... when the Bible is being read by a Chauvinist.

The same thing happens when the Bible is read by an racist- the Bible becomes racist.

Or when the Bible is read by a socialist or communist- the Bible becomes a socialist manifesto.

I think it all depends on who is reading the Bible and what is in his or her heart.

Was Jesus Caucasian? You would think so since so many paintings of him were painted by Caucasians.
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MichMan Wrote:Of course the Bible is Chauvinistic..... when the Bible is being read by a Chauvinist.


Ya think so eh? Then try this on for size.

I love women dearly, and I wholeheartedly believe that in terms of Christianity, women have gotten a raw deal.

The male writers of the Holy Bible created a Supreme entity (aka..."God"). This figure is in the form of a male.

The male figure ID'ed as "God", according to "Christians", is the Alpha and the Omega. "He" is credited with creating e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.

There is no "Mrs. God", or "Ms. God" or female "god" or "Goddess". "God" appears to be a bachelor. There is no recognition of a female "Goddess" to add in feminine power to add balance the power of their male "God". (Women know what I'm talking about.)

Since men wrote the Holy Bible, it surprises me not that their version of their "god" is a male.

By and large, men r also power hungry and have a tendency to be insecure when it comes to protecting their sense of power.

Women r very powerful. Knowing what I know about men, (I just happen to be one so that gives me an advantage,) it make complete sense that men did not want to share their newly acquired power from the creation of their "God" with women. Women may wish to add in their femininity , their feminine power into something that masculine males created and such a thought could feel threatening to men who r insecure. So God was left without a complimentary partner, his "Goddess". Thus it surprises me not that Christianity is male driven, and women r placed after men.

Men r to be the head of the household, which is crap.

Men r 2 only be in that position if he is qualified of doing the job. Period.

Women are to serve their husbands, and become his property in wed-lock. It is called wed-lock for a reason.

In the Bible, by and large women r secondary to men.

And you don't think all of this describes chauvinism?

These are not my personal views and beliefs. This is what I have seen in "Christianity" and is part of what turned me off from it.

I'll even tell u where I feel a woman place is in life....wherever she decides it is; though I cant quite agree with two women raising a young boy by themselves.

I do not feel a women place should be determined by a male Preacher in church. :nono:

I'm for liberating women :clapping: I'm not interested in keeping them repressed. :nono:

Btw, I can assure you, if women had written the Holy Bible, it would have been written much differently.
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Multimillionaire Wrote:Women r very powerful. Knowing what I know about men, (I just happen to be one so that gives me an advantage,) it make complete sense that men did not want to share their newly acquired power from the creation of their "God" with women.
And you don't think all of this describes chauvinism?

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(A little tongue-in-cheek here) The men who wrote the Bible didn't create God. In many cases, the Bible relates stories of people who have heard the Voice of God. God is infinite wisdom - and in that wisdom, God's voice is deep and powerful, which many assume to be male. However - most women understand that the majority of men hear a voice in the alto/soprano range and immediately hear "blahblahblah".

Many religions have females as the "Mother of all Mankind"; plus Adam was a prototype - Eve is the finished product. Maybe God's a woman with a great voice modulator :thumbsup: Wink
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Deb Wrote:
Multimillionaire Wrote:Women r very powerful. Knowing what I know about men, (I just happen to be one so that gives me an advantage,) it make complete sense that men did not want to share their newly acquired power from the creation of their "God" with women.
And you don't think all of this describes chauvinism?

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(A little tongue-in-cheek here) The men who wrote the Bible didn't create God. In many cases, the Bible relates stories of people who have heard the Voice of God.


Imo that is someone's opinion of accounts from a culture of highly superstitious ppl.

Anyone can claim to hear the voice of what they wish to label as the Christian s "God".

It's a matter of what ppl 'want to believe' when they hear these things. :think:
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