Deb wrote:I've been trying to "date" some of the stuff I read: today, Joe Cool posted a 2 yr old letter from a woman who sounded terrified to speak out against the abuse of her upline. She said she had been in Amway 12 years ago - which puts her in the early-to-mid 90's - which IMO is the heyday of AMO abuse. The fact that anyone made money off the systems was still hush-hush; and the "Old-School Kingpins" were still in control She didn't mention what AMO she and her husband were in.
(split from another thread)
I've noticed this for a couple of years now - there's virtually NO new "Amway Critics" with actual experience. WKAC (well know amway critics) JoeCool and Scott Larsen seem to have little to talk about except trying to dig up gossip on little ol' me, and JoeCool spends an awful lot of time reposting posts like the one above - a 2 yr old post from somebody with an experience well over a decade ago.
When you encounter "new" posts critical of Amway, it's nearly entirely from people whose posts are based not on personal experience, but on what they read on the 'net.
Have we "won"?
And by "won" I don't mean won against the critics, though that's kind of part of it, I mean "won" against the type of stuff that caused the rep problems in the first place. Clearly it's still an issue in some places, as evidenced by the thread where I took Deb's quote, but really you find very very few criticisms from people that have actual experience within the last 5 years. The only group that seemed to generate much was TEAM, and even then it very little.
Now, before "critics" try and take credit for it, I think actually it's got more to do with the fact that virtually all the criticism originated within one LOS and it's offshoots. Groups like IC, N21, eFinity, MMP etc have generated almost no online criticism from people with actual experience. A large part of the "change" is perhaps they've all grown significantly while the "problem" groups have shrunk (or disappeared ala TEAM).
Having said that, I think some groups that used to generate criticism have also changed quite a lot. WWDB used to create a lot of critics - but it seems not to anymore, and from Bridgett's reports it's running along pretty fine. BWW and Yager still seem to be generating some complaints (not least from me!) but nothing like those from the 90s, they've clearly made some changes.
This has to all be considered in the context that in the 90s internet usage was quite low, whereas in the 21st century it's incredibly easy to get online and start whining. But there's almost nothing new!
